tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post8795095708425848723..comments2023-05-16T02:53:34.878-07:00Comments on The Catholic Working Mother: Abortion vs. Miscarriage - A Response to "crowepps"JoAnna Wahlundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-33433989705077956602016-03-07T08:27:24.423-07:002016-03-07T08:27:24.423-07:00Hi Billy, please read the following: http://blog.s...Hi Billy, please read the following: <a href="http://blog.secularprolife.org/2014/06/the-imago-dei-or-why-should-secularists.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.secularprolife.org/2014/06/the-imago-dei-or-why-should-secularists.html</a>JoAnna Wahlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-76098259188369721272016-03-06T20:39:18.720-07:002016-03-06T20:39:18.720-07:00Are you vegetarians? If not how is the life of a h...Are you vegetarians? If not how is the life of a human fertilized egg or fetus so important but you eat an animal a dayBillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16922140087610385098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-35910591377349985762013-10-29T06:18:30.872-07:002013-10-29T06:18:30.872-07:00Needed to read this post today, thank you.Needed to read this post today, thank you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14927751448670046314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-53666484633718258502013-04-13T09:22:01.635-07:002013-04-13T09:22:01.635-07:00Actually, no, that is not "a dictate of my lo...Actually, no, that is not "a dictate of my lovely God." I'm so glad I could clear up that misinformation for you!JoAnna Wahlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-14749907156131097942013-04-13T04:34:24.687-07:002013-04-13T04:34:24.687-07:00crowepps is apparently burning in Hell for all ete...crowepps is apparently burning in Hell for all eternity now according to the dictates of your lovely God. Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-72228538560959128622011-06-25T09:42:41.866-07:002011-06-25T09:42:41.866-07:00I am terribly sorry for peoples lives being disrup...I am terribly sorry for peoples lives being disrupted by unwanted pregnancies. If you have that opinion of fetuses, sometimes referred to as human beings, then please, have your tubes tied. If you can't take time out of your busy life to treat someone who had no say in their being here with any more compassion than that, please don't flatter yourself into thinking you would be a good mother. You wouldn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-12287640792634351442011-04-15T13:19:02.578-07:002011-04-15T13:19:02.578-07:00Priest's Wife - I'm so sorry for your loss...Priest's Wife - I'm so sorry for your loss.<br /><br />My early miscarriage (5w5d) was actually over pretty quickly. I started cramping and spotting, and soon after we arrived at the ER I started bleeding heavily. <br /><br />My first miscarriage was similar to yours -- the baby died in utero at 8 weeks and I had no idea until I went in for a routine prenatal at 12 weeks, and my midwife couldn't find the baby's heartbeat. Then I had to wait 3 days for the D&C (I had to go in for a pre-op physical).JoAnna Wahlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-64227644656819112012011-04-14T15:53:42.979-07:002011-04-14T15:53:42.979-07:00here's a comment I left over at Simcha's b...here's a comment I left over at Simcha's blog to give one reason why miscarriage is different than abortion....<br /><br />A reason why a miscarriage is very different than an abortion is biology…how long does an abortion take? A few hours? or less? but a miscarriage is slow- and ‘better’ for the woman’s body. It is sadly nature taking its course.<br />I had a miscarriage when the baby was 20 weeks. The baby was dead for a week before I knew. Then, I waited for a few days before I went in the hospital for the labor. So- I was spiritually and mentally ready (as I could be). My body was prepared hormone-wise instead of the shocking biological change that is abortion. I also didn’t have any sharp instruments to injure me as I had the miscarriage. Women are sad after a miscarriage, but they do not have an increased statistical likelihood of clinical depression or suicide like after abortion.<br /><br />So- even without thinking the baby is a baby, a miscarriage is very different than abortion.priest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-55424607981742790442011-03-21T06:21:30.748-07:002011-03-21T06:21:30.748-07:00That's great that you saw a baby when you look...That's great that you saw a baby when you looked at your ultrasound. My sister, who's pregnant right now, sees a baby when she looks at her ultrasounds. Me, I didn't want to be pregnant, so when I looked at my 9-week ultrasound, I saw a blurry thing that looked like a lumpy kidney bean. I felt regret that my birth control had failed, and that my boyfriend and I were both broke and heading off to different grad schools, but I didn't feel regret about getting the abortion itself. Rather I felt grateful and relieved that I didn't have to be pregnant and give birth when I really didn't want to, and wasn't ready to.<br /><br />It is your attachment to the baby-to-be that causes you to regard your potential human being as a "baby" rather than a "fetus." And that's understandable. But your personal feelings about your own fetus have no relevance to any other pregnant women. Only the eager anticipation of a woman who's ready to become a mother can transform a fetus into an unborn baby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-57354543044850943042011-03-21T05:01:56.059-07:002011-03-21T05:01:56.059-07:00JoAnna, you said: "Why doesn't the hospit...JoAnna, you said: "Why doesn't the hospital perform the procedure on women with living, healthy babies? Obviously, there is some difference, otherwise there would be no need for abortion facilities."<br /><br />First, you meant "fetuses" not babies. Please use the correct terminology. Secondly, the difference is political, not medical. <br /><br />Finally, you know that Crowepps is right, you said it yourself when you said "Technically, this is true." Yes. The law is technical, and details are important. Definitions of words are especially important.<br /><br />I understand that you believe that terminating a pregnancy is wrong under certain circumstances. Most certainly is would be wrong for you. But you are not able to speak for all people, Catholic and non-Catholic alike. What you are saying will be just the right advice for some people, but not all people. Legislation needs to work for all people, just like a bridge needs to work for all traffic loads, not just the average. (Yes, my profession is technical design and analysis). Legislation is just too unwieldy to cover difficult and personal medical decisions.<br /><br />Whatever your thoughts are the rights of a fetus, the scope of decisions on this matter that you have a moral right to make is limited to yourself. Even if Government did have right to make this call for all women, it would be a very difficult, technical piece of legislation that would fail because it could not cater for all situations. Such legislation would cost women's lives, make no mistake.<br /><br />The argument between pro-choice and pro-life is uninteresting to me because it is ultimately futile in practical terms. If women are to have safe, appropriate care then the government needs to let people get on with it, and not interfere with heavy-handed legislation.Marynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-46550555758419893442011-03-09T07:51:45.009-07:002011-03-09T07:51:45.009-07:00Living for the Lord,
My midwife gave me that pict...Living for the Lord,<br /><br />My midwife gave me that picture after the ultrasound, and she said, "You probably don't want this right now, but someday you'll be glad to have it." She was so right and I am very grateful to her.JoAnna Wahlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-79004416769910770622011-03-09T07:14:47.667-07:002011-03-09T07:14:47.667-07:00These are great posts, JoAnna. I've all but gi...These are great posts, JoAnna. I've all but given up wasting my breath trying to explain things to pro-choicers and I know I shouldn't. I don't even post certain things on FB, because I know the people that need to read it won't bother.Karahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08057654080632377742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-21067003931969216212011-03-08T10:40:46.387-07:002011-03-08T10:40:46.387-07:00Ugh. I had a miscarriage too (and a D&C afterw...Ugh. I had a miscarriage too (and a D&C afterward) and I too am so, excuse my french, pissed off, that abortion advocates act like its the same thing. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together should realize it is completely different. <br /><br />I read a few books about dealing with grief after a pregnancy loss, and it really, really bothered me that they included women who'd had abortions as part of this group who lost a pregnancy. Hello! They didn't lose it, they threw it away like a piece of trash. Women who have miscarriages, who would have fought tooth and nail to keep their babies, do not deserve to be lumped in with women who (for whatever reason) willingly ended their pregnancies.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11889780681891693861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-11111309514438757682011-03-08T09:26:18.594-07:002011-03-08T09:26:18.594-07:00And yes Leila...the difference they claim to "...And yes Leila...the difference they claim to "not see" is so huge!<br /><br />It is the differnce between a poor child being accidentally hit by a car in the street while crossing with his mother and a mother PURPOSEFULLY THROWING her child into the path of an oncoming car.<br /><br />I dare any pro-choicer to claim there is no difference.Living for the Lord in 2011https://www.blogger.com/profile/03411156356683809203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-46726341155031236152011-03-08T09:23:30.848-07:002011-03-08T09:23:30.848-07:00Thank you so much!
I tried to obtain an ultrasoun...Thank you so much!<br /><br />I tried to obtain an ultrasound pic of my baby lost to miscarriage, but it was no longer in my file...<br /><br />wish I had the same tangible reminder you do, but baby lives in my heart and I cannot wait to meet him or her someday in heaven!Living for the Lord in 2011https://www.blogger.com/profile/03411156356683809203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7546639772211374853.post-66500389881294562692011-03-07T23:22:57.062-07:002011-03-07T23:22:57.062-07:00JoAnna, oh, that beautiful ultrasound and headston...JoAnna, oh, that beautiful ultrasound and headstone took my breath away! God bless Baby Wahlund!<br /><br />And, your response was excellent. You know, I never understood why some of our more liberal friends cannot see a moral difference between an unborn child dying by natural causes or by unnatural (but willful) suction machines and knives. Makes no logical sense to me....Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.com